Dr Zach Bush and Dr Daniel Pompa
Facebook video linkViruses are a genomic information update. They are the response to the stressors we have placed on the planet.
“I have never witnessed in my lifetime a more egregious division between a public message and the science behind it. There is an extreme abuse of power, an extreme abuse of fear. Is there a pandemic happening? Yes, we’ve had twelve thousand pandemics and epidemics in viral kingdom just in the last 40 years.”
Masks are ineffectual and exacerbating the problem in more than one way.
“I think there’s an erroneous belief that we’re having any influence on this at all. Like, we don’t have a choice. Should we let this virus go, or should we sequester? We can’t control that, that virus was out and about, long before we even knew there was a problem. We had a global pandemic going before the media even started to realize [unintelligible]. The death curve and cases per population, even though those numbers have been completely and ridiculously utilized with very erroneous testing and everything else, we can say with quite confidence, even though the numbers are not accurate, the patters are consistent with every other pandemic that you would expect, and the pattern is around 42 days and every single country, it doesn’t matter what their response is, has seen 42 day curves. We’ve got this situation where we think we’re changing the pattern, or should we slow down the pattern…we don’t have a choice. This thing is going global no matter what. There is no evidence that we’ve changed the curve of infection by all of these ridiculous things that have been put in place. They’re there to change the way we fear things, they’re there for reasons, I think outside of science, but science is showing us that the curves of infection, the rates of death, and then the resolution of it is the same in every country, whether they put masks on, don’t put masks on, whatever it is, like shut down the entire economy, it doesn’t matter because the virus was out and did it’s thing before we realized what was going on.”
“Nature’s already fixed it. We don’t even have to do anything now. We just need to go back to a healthier relationship with mother earth.”
Transcript:
[2:20 – 4:00] Viruses are the communication network between the microbiome and other species form earthworms, to pigs, to humans. You’ve got this hierarchy of genetic information in the world, the fungi are 10x the number of bacteria, they rule due to their sheer diversity of life outside and within the human body. The only way we can be informed and connected to that, to not only the genomic foundation for life, but for the adaptation necessary for life to continue.
Obviously the one thing we can guarantee in life is change, and that’s very true at the foundation of biology. Biology is brilliantly designed to be changing all the time, and at the genetic level, we have to change all the time for adaptation to occur. What allows human life to be possible is the eons of change in the genomics of the planet has allowed multicellular life to emerge and emerge in more and more complex forms. And so without the virus being that genetic code transfer system, we would be screwed, we would never have existed. So we need to come to terms with the fact that viruses are not frightening, they are not even alive. They are a genetic transfer machine used to update the genome of the genome of the planet moment to moment. We are surrounded by 10^31 viruses in the soil, 10^31 viruses in the air, 10^ 31 viruses in the ocean water. We are surrounded by somewhere around a billion times more viruses than there are stars in the entire universe, yet we’ve been taught to fear these things, which is ludicrous.
[4:30-6:51] You bring up the immune system, and one of the issues is we think there’s a human immune system which is actually pretty erroneous based on the last ten years of science. We have kidneys, we have a liver, we have a gut, but we don’t have an immune system; we don’t have an immune organ. The immune system is a continuation a response mechanism within the whole system of biology. White blood cells look to be only a small part of what we would call some sort of immune system. Babies are born without innate immunity. It takes about six months for a baby’s immune system to get functioning to it’s full potential (as we think of it) B cells that make antibodies, T cells that clean up cells that have been damaged or overwhelmed by new genetic information from a virus. That whole system takes six months to come online after birth, but by one week into life, we know that there’s 10^8 viruses in the stool of any baby. And so the viruses aren’t hurting that baby, in fact the viruses are working to inform and be a continuum of information from the ecosystem into that child.
The immune system is global, it is not human. There is no human immune system. There is only the microbiology and its global immunity. We think of the immune system as fighting against things, when in reality, the immune system, through the continuum is a system of balance. And so we don’t want to kill anything, we don’t want to eliminate bacteria or fungi, we want there to be balance, and each species needs to play it’s important role and niche within that ecosystem. And so immunity for me is really expanded outside of the body to understand we are a continuum within nature, until our nature that around us is in a continuous path of information exchange, and the viruses are a big piece of that, but micro-RNA being another piece. There’s just so much genetic information being exchanged all the time, and that’s what leads to health. When we isolate away from nature, we immediately increase disease burden.
Pompa: In the last ten years, we’ve found in mice, the more sterile the environment, the more disease ridden they become. We’ve gone back to the hygiene theory that we’re going to kill everything.
[7:47-9:00] Bush: There’s no doubt that the current response of the media, the talking heads within the administration who have been allowed to pretend like they know what’s going on; I have never witnessed in my lifetime a more egregious division between a public message and the science behind it. There is an extreme abuse of power, an extreme abuse of fear. Is there a pandemic happening? Yes, we’ve had twelve thousand pandemics and epidemics in viral kingdom just in the last 40 years. These happen all the time, all over the world, and the one thing that kills more people than anything else is influenza every year, an so that’s where the problem really lies. We have hospitals stretched to their most extreme burden because of chronic disease and recurrent patterns of genomic shift around the planet due to this stress that we’re causing the ecology. An so we’re causing these things from an increasing destruction of nature an our connection to it, and our response, especially no more egregious than this episode we’re having now is to kill more things, and put ourselves at more odds with nature, rather than reconnect to is as the solution.
Pompa: Should we isolate the vulnerable and reach heard immunity?
[9:30-12:10] I think there’s an erroneous belief that we’re having any influence on this at all. Like, we don’t have a choice. Should we let this virus go, or should we sequester? We can’t control that, that virus was out and about, long before we even knew there was a problem. We had a global pandemic going before the media even started to realize [unintelligible]. The death curve and cases per population, even though those numbers have been completely and ridiculously utilized with very erroneous testing and everything else, we can say with quite confidence, even though the numbers are not accurate, the patters are consistent with every other pandemic that you would expect, and the pattern is around 42 days and every single country, it doesn’t matter what their response is, has seen 42 day curves. We’ve got this situation where we think we’re changing the pattern, or should we slow down the pattern…we don’t have a choice. This thing is going global no matter what. There is no evidence that we’ve changed the curve of infection by all of these ridiculous things that have been put in place. They’re there to change the way we fear things, they’re there for reasons, I think outside of science, but science is showing us that the curves of infection, the rates of death, and then the resolution of it is the same in every country, whether they put masks on, don’t put masks on, whatever it is, like shut down the entire economy, it doesn’t matter because the virus was out and did it’s thing before we realized what was going on.
So we can’t change the reality of genomics. The planet is a continuum of genomics. We can call them viruses, we can call them whatever you want, you can build fear around them, it’s irrelevant, because the genomics are going to spread around the planet, the same way they have since the beginning of the planet two billion years ago, and so it’s a very false belief system that we’re going to suddenly somehow change the way genetics travel around the planet. It’s impossible.
Pompa: Dr. Judy is concerned that the masks cause more problems, and you’ve said their ineffective, so will you elaborate on that?
[12:30-14:00] Bush: So viruses are tiny, tiny, tiny little pieces of genetic information, especially in the case of a coronavirus which is an RNA virus, and so these are tiny little packets of genetic information, and our bodies are extremely permeable membranes. Putting a mask on is irrelevant to the overall size of your exposure to this virus. Your gut lining, starting at your sinuses, and going all the way down through to the colon is two tennis courts in surface area. Every time you slip that mask off and breathe, to go to the bathroom, you know wherever you think you’re in privacy, you’re breathing the planet’s air, and the genetic information we’ve seen with every influenza epidemic, you can show exactly where those viruses are going to be around the planet down to a square mile on the planet, at any given time or season of the year because we know how air travels around the planet, and the viruses are simply traveling by the air. And so there is no “Oh, now I’m outside and now I’m out of danger,” or something like that, it’s a continuum, everything is continuous, there is no isolated air pocket in your house that keeps you safe and then when you go outside you suddenly have to put a mask on, it’s erroneous thinking. And so yes, I don’t think it makes any sense. There’s no science stating that making masks mandatory in the public is going to change the path of a genetic spread of a virus around the planet, that science doesn’t exist, because it would be impossible for that to be real, because that’s not how the genetic information is traveling.
[14:35-17:33] There’s no question the masks can do harm, but the reality is if they do no good, and we know that it has no relationship to the actual reality and the science of how viruses move around and how they get in the body. Even if there was no risk to the masks, what you’ve done now is put an incredible amount of waste into the planet. And so right now China is making 200 million masks *a day*. 200 million a day is being pumped out of China right now to meet the global demand. The amount of plastic waste from that, that is going to end up in our oceans and destroy our planet faster, to accelerate us towards a much worse pandemic as we destroy the ecosystems further, send out bigger and bigger stress signals from the environ as we destroy our planet; the masks are doing that. So even if they had no effect on human health, I can tell you for-sure, 200 million masks a day that are all going to end up in waste dumps, and in oceans is ludicrous. It is literally getting at the root of why this thing happened, and we’re just accelerating it faster so killing the globe is killing humanity.
Now, is it directly hurting humans? It has to be directly hurting humans because this is polypropylene–this is plastic. The material they use in it is terrifying. It’s called mesh injected, or mesh blown glass, melt blown plastics; and so to make an N95 or any of these N99 masks that are supposed to be protecting us from the virus; they melt polypropylene or some other form of plastic there are also [mineral?] ones that are melting glass, fiberglass, but most of them are made with plastics. They’re melting polypropylene and injecting it with high speed air so that explodes out into a web and then the webbing plastic hits a screen and layers on top of each other to make this multi-layer spiderweb of plastic. And then you put that on your face and you’re breathing through plastic. Unfortunately these microfibrils, especially when manufacturing goes into a blitz of we need suddenly, 200 million masks a day suddenly quality control goes away and you’re just pumping these things out. The masks are prone and especially when heated and cooled in transport and everything else, the plastic starts to fray within that and you’re getting these nano-particles of plastic into your lungs. And so it’s a very bad idea to tell the whole population to start breathing polypropylene nano-plastics. That has been shown to absorbed through the lung into the bloodstream very quickly, and we know that polypropylene, especially in these nano-particle sizes is a huge endocrine disruptor, speeding up metabolic collapse, infertility, all these things that are leading to [unintelligible].
Pompa: Dr. Judy, since 2013 there are coronavirus strains in the vaccines. She believes that these coronaviruses that are in vaccines can be creating more of what you call firestorm and immediate cytokine activity and put people who have more of these vaccines at greater risk.
[18:28-21:30] Bush: There’s a nice NIH published study showing that the influenza vaccine increases the risk of getting coronavirus. And so it’s showing us that when we disrupt the human side of the immune system’s response to the biome, we interrupt a very important information cascade.
Here you’re listening to me and there’s some sort of suspended disbelief going on because you’re told all these people are dying from COVID and the reality is nobody is dying from this virus. The virus is asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic for the vast majority of people that get this genetic update. And so the virus is not responsible for your immune system’s response to it. It’s just a genetic code that’s updating your genome. And so your genome is updating and for some people, the new protein that is being made by COVID is triggering an interesting down-stream response, but it has to be a perfect storm. Your body has to be very, very vulnerable the changes that are happening in these people that are showing up with hypoxia and ultimately organ failure and potentially death. It’s a very, very small segment of our population. And remember this virus went pandemic very fast; before we had a response, before we had everything, it was in every nook and cranny of the planet. And so this virus has been updating the genome and we’re seeing a tiny fraction, and if it’s a million deaths world-wide, that’s a tragedy, but hundreds of millions of people die every year. And so it’s not going to change the population growth, it’s not going to be like the Black Plague which eliminated 30% of the population. We act like this is a terrifying pandemic. We have no idea what terrifying looks like. The Bubonic Plague was terrifying. That, literally would wipe out a third or 25% of the population of every country in the world. We have never seen real plague hit. That we have such an erroneous, and backwards and non-scientifically backed and based response to this pandemic is a huge warning. I want scientists to start standing up. I want doctors to start standing up and saying, we have to have a response system that not there to sell more drugs and sell some theoretical vaccine. We need a system that responds to our ten years of science around the microbiome’s role in human immunity, and we need to start to react like that. As soon as there’s a pandemic, we need to get everybody to stop driving, because the main thing that Harvard found was killing populations was air pollution. And so there’s something in air pollution, likely heavy metals, that are cause a noxious secondary injury to the red blood cell and causing hypoxic injury. As soon as China stops driving, and their air pollution clears, they all stop dying. It was like somebody threw a switch and suddenly, over a 30 day period, they went from this…they build 16 new hospitals in less than a month and then less than two weeks after opening the hospitals they had to discharge everybody because there was nobody else left.
Pompa: military study. Those who were exposed to the vaccines had a 30% increase in SARS types of viruses. That’s huge, to the point that there is something predisposing us, and flu vaccines could be one of them.
[22:21-23:09] Bush: It’s so frustration that we keep thinking that we need to fight against the microbiome. The microbiome is not at fault. We are at fault. We keep destroying ecosystems, we keep destroying the connection between us and that ecosystem, and that’s what’s driving pandemics. We did not see a single virus jump species until 1976. It’s crazy that we have now after the last 30-40 years seen 12,000 episodes of these massive genomic shifts happening across species because we are stressing these species to such a state that they are going extinct. And so in the last death throes of adaptation when they’re trying to not go extinct, they’re putting out information. We call them viruses, we create fear around them, really all we’re doing is breathing the stress of the planet we’ve created.
Pompa: We need to be exposed to certain things. Science shows the more we’re exposed to different pathogens, viruses, bacteria, etc. from childhood, the stronger our immune system. We’re now teaching the opposite of what we have learned in the last decade.
What can we gain from this. What can we do?
[23:57-26:20] Bush: Nature’s already fixed it. We don’t even have to do anything now. We just need to go back to a healthier relationship with mother earth. We need to start growing our own food again. We need to start growing food in our backyards again. We need to put the chemical industries out of business by taking responsibility for our own health and food systems. It’s that simple. Nature has already solved this. SARS, MERV. They go away within 2 years, no vaccine ever created for those. They simply go away because we create what we call herd immunity, I look at it differently and say no, the genetic update happened, and we didn’t need any more reactivity to it because the majority of those of us that can absorb that genetic information did so, found homeostasis and balance and we moved on. This is going to be over, this is not going to wait for some technological advance to save us all [unintelligible]. If it took four years to create a coronavirus vaccine that worked, then we would have done it in 2001 with SARS. We would have done it in 2011 with MERS. It’s not that it takes time, it’s impossible. It’s not actually a germ, it’s just genetic information. You can’t create a vaccine against genetic information. The genetic information is being produced by our own cells. Human cells are producing the virus that is making people sick. It has to be made by the human system for it to affect humans. And so the genetic information comes floating into our experience, and single human cell picks it up and says “Oh, cool. New genetic information,” it makes a new protein, I’m going to use that protein for, who knows what. We don’t even know what this new protein for COVID-19 is, which I’m exited there’s a new protein, and it’s probably go some sort of adaptive importance to us, as it was put out by nature as an adaptation to stress. So we have a new adaptation genome that’s been inserted into human cells. We’re now putting that out in volume to make sure it gets out to the entire global population.
Pompa: Do we want to get exposed?
[26:25-28:15] Bush: Not only do we want coronavirus, we want continuous information update from nature, and you want the least stress possible in that nature that you’re touching. Which means that if you just go out to the dog park every day, and that’s your definition of nature, and you’re standing in glyphosate sprayed, Round-up ready “grass”; it’s ludicrous that you think that’s nature. You’re breathing, already a damaged ecosystem. You’ve got to go out and get in nature, you’ve go out into the ocean as far as you can, you’ve got to into the national parks as far as you can. Is there any part of the planet that’s not damaged right now? No, but it’s resilient. It’s going to show you in nature, that the less stress you get, the less information you need, but get into as many ecosystems as possible. Our lab has been working on the communication network between the microbiome for the last seven years, and it’s just been so encouraging to see how resilient biology is when it’s given enough information. So when you see a cell communicate with an adjacent cell, you see immediate repair and resilience happen. The bizarre think we’ve discovered is that one human cell doesn’t talk to the other human cells through a human language, it talks through a wireless communication network made by bacteria and fungi. So whether it’s the bacteria and fungi creating the wireless network of communication between your cells, or the constant updates of genomic information that you need from the viral kingdom, this is your support network for life and resilience. And we’re seeing this all over the world. [Unintelligible] are more likely to die right now. Not because of the virus, but because of the cumulative stress you have consumed by separating yourself from nature.
They go on for a few minutes to talk about the product Dr. Bush’s labs have produced to support the microbiome in the sinuses and gut.